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rattfan ([personal profile] rattfan) wrote2017-04-04 08:46 am

Russian agreement

 Real quick because I have to go to work, but on LJ today; up comes a new user agreement courtesy of the Russian Federation (that now hosts LiveJournal), that you have to agree with or it won't let you continue, and which I personally found quite confusing in parts.

How can I agree with something referring to laws of the Russian Federation when I don't know them?

Hmmmm


I hope some of my flist might consider moving to Dreamwidth, because not sure aobut staying with LJ now....

More later


Alex
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[personal profile] leecetheartist 2017-04-04 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not at all sure about staying with LJ either!
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[personal profile] st_aurafina 2017-04-04 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just letting the agreement hang there until I know more about it - I don't use LJ much any more, and I can live without it for a few days at least.

Beats me why they keep shooting themselves in the foot about it though. It's like they want people to leave.
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[personal profile] mific 2017-04-04 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm logged out and watching to see how it pans out, but will cease cross-posting to LJ, or in fact posting at all there, except anon. Here's more about this:
http://runpunkrun.dreamwidth.org/705493.html
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[personal profile] vyperdd 2017-04-08 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I've imported my LJ here (well up until early Jan '17- will do rest tomorrow, really don't like that NONE of my pics or any twitter/Youtube/FB embeds work here) but only plan on using DW for back-up and to continue posting at LJ.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2017-04-04 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
> How can I agree with something referring to laws of the Russian Federation when I don't know them?<

Short version: they keep a copy of your data for a year (even if you delete posts etc)

[identity profile] sue-bursztynski.livejournal.com 2017-04-04 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I saw that. It said the agreement wasn't binding, but wouldn't let you in unless you signed the agreement. There was a link to the original agreement, but... it was in Russian!

I read it through and there was something that said they were allowed to send you advertising. Hopefully it will turn up in the spam folder and can be deleted unread. I signed because I couldn't get through otherwise, but
I must check out Dreamwidth myself, not sure how it works, but I really don't like this new "agreement"!

[identity profile] jaelle-n-gilla.livejournal.com 2017-04-04 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, ads is what they live off, so I understand that for a free service. And if I have to abide to US law or Russian law doesn't really make a different to me. Both are alien to me, and both I'd have to google to know what exactly it is about. On the other hand it doesn't sound like it applies to me anyway.
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[personal profile] hgws 2017-04-06 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is a worry for me. From the User Agreement: "The User may not perform any other actions contradictory to the laws of the Russian Federation" - does that include the so-called "promotion of homosexuality" which Russian authorities have used to shut down queer pride parades and organisations?

Doing some googling, there's a good article here about how the English translation is not the legally-binding agreement:

https://advox.globalvoices.org/2017/04/04/after-moving-servers-to-russia-livejournal-bans-political-solicitation/

And here's an English translation (partial) of the Russian legislation, with commentary on what that means to LJ users:

http://suricattus.tumblr.com/post/159173840169/suricattus-digitaldiscipline-suricattus

So looks like I'm migrating to DW finally...